I just completed a preview of Intuit’s Quicken Financial Life, which is now online at Macworld.com.
There have been some questions on the Macworld Forum and requests for screenshots of other parts of the program, so I’m going to provide shots that we didn’t use in the Macworld article here.
It’s important to note that the current beta of Quicken Financial Life is REALLY a beta. In other words, there is much about this program that is not working yet, some of which is really important, like account reconciliation, which you cannot do using the current beta. What I was able to see worked nicely, but, again, it’s important to note that I did no testing with this program. I didn’t download account info from my bank, couldn’t reconcile an account. In fact, the data I used came directly from Intuit.
In short, the article was exactly what the title says, a Preview of an application that’s very much in the early stages of beta testing and at least six months away from potential release.
Here are two of the aforementioned screenshots:
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As you can see from this shot, while the look of the entire interface differs considerably from what you might be used to in Quicken, the ledger-like look hasn’t really gone away. What has gone away is the checkbook register look that has been the hallmark of the Mac versions of Quicken and QuickBooks since those programs first shipped.
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I like QFL’s tagging tool a lot. Here’s why… I have always felt that Quicken, and for that matter, every other personal financial app’s categorization requirements were way too stringent. For example, in Quicken, in order to add something like “Lunch” to a Meal expense you’d have to type “Meals:Lunch” in the category field. If Lunch didn’t exist as a category Quicken would pop up a dialog box telling you that it didn’t exist and that you’d have to create the category before you could use it. This kind of thinking makes perfect sense for Business apps, but was too strict, at least by my thinking, in a personal finance app. Tags allow you to be much more informal about how you categorize your spending, which I think is a real benefit to those using this kind of software.
Caveat: I don’t use Quicken. I have it on my Mac, but, ever since I started using my bank’s online bill pay services, I haven’t felt that I was gaining any benefit from using Quicken. What I now use to track my spending habits is Mint.com. It’s an imperfect solution, as it doesn’t support one of the credit unions I use, but it does support the bank where I do the majority of my business and it tracks my expenses with a minimum of hassle. Scary for some, I know, to have your financial info on a third-party site, but for me, a solution that saves me time, works well, and doesn’t cost me a dime.


Are the categories gone and no longer an option? I don't think I'll like the cloud things. I want to be rigid about where my money is going. It looks like it would make it easier to do charts and track expenses if items were categorized the same way each time. I've never minded creating a new category if it's one I will use often. Otherwise, the item usually can fit in another category without problem.
Sally
Sally, I no longer have QFL installed on my Mac, so I can't look at the program and see if categories are supported. If I remember correctly, I think they are. If not you can still use tags in a more structured fashion and treat them as categories.
Thanks for stopping by!
-Jeff
Hey Chelsea,
No problem, and thanks again for your time.
-Jeff
Hey Rick,
I wholly agree with where QFL is at the moment but, again, this program is months away from being remotely ready for prime time, and it's being advertised as such. It's really hard to make an accurate judgement of a program this early in the process.
But there are things that I like about the program. While I know people are kvetching about the "usefulness" of the program's tagging system on the Macworld site, for me these go a step beyond the normal categories that I'm used to seeing in personal finance apps. And where they do go makes the program more useful for me. (Now you see the bugger in any reviewer's closet. You have to think outside of your personal preferences.)
You should definitely take a look at Mint.com. It's a very good solution for me as it doesn't require manual data entry, although I do occasionally have to make minor adjustments to the categories that the program automatically assigns. The upside is that it's trainable, so it eventually figures out where and how you want your expenses categorized. The thing that I love about Mint that began to drive me nuts about Quicken was the automatically updated transactions. For good reason, Quicken turned of key logging so that no one could capture your keystrokes when entering passwords and run off with your money. Unfortunately, this broke other application that used key logging to perform other tasks, such as keyboard macros. For me it became more of a hassle than it was worth.
Again, thanks for stopping by. Let me know if you have any other questions.
-Jeff
Hi Jeffery,
Thanks for the insightful review in MacWorld this week – and also for your follow-up post. Quicken Financial Life for Mac is still in beta, and as you point out, betas aren't fully functional final products yet
In our chats about Quicken Financial Life for Mac, I neglected to tell you about Quicken Online (http://www.quickenonline.com). It is our free, Web-based basic personal finance service. We're making some exciting improvements – if Web-based services interest you, please feel free to let me know and I'll set up another interview or demo.
Rick, thanks for trying out the beta – hopefully you're sending your feedback to our team (you can do this through the Quicken Financial Life for Mac menu in-product). Yes, the product will ship this summer!
- Chelsea, Quicken
Thanks for answering my request for a screenshot of the ledger, Jeffrey. I downloaded the beta last night thinking that if it was stable enough, I'd simply move everything over to it while waiting for the final product. Obviously, it's simply not ready yet. And I really have to wonder if it will be ready by the summer, but we'll see.
Also, after playing with it a bit, and downloading my actual finances into it, I wonder if the new "iTunes-like" interface is really an advantage. I understand what you mean about how stringent Quicken could be, but could this not have been fixed with the older version? I use Quicken on the Mac daily, and somehow the new version "feels" like a lesser product. I know they've built it from the ground up, and that's the thing–it feels very much like a 1.0 application, kind of like what iWork Pages was like in v. 1.
At the same time, it might just be my human tendency to not like something new and different. But usually I'm not that way when it comes to software, so it makes me wonder if the software itself isn't lacking. If I do upgrade (and I probably will since I'm using Quicken 2006 currently, and am one of those customers who likes Quicken and doesn't really complain about it much), I will probably wait six months so that any major kinks can get worked out. Losing one's financial data is not the same as losing a word document. I'll want to have more than faith before I leap.